. So try to base your decision on your need for mobility, not so much on how wide your shoulders are. HighDraw, I am the other way around, played at 240 and now weigh 275 lol. I like this video. I wish I lived in NC so I could come take some lessons from you! The whole coil and feel the stretch in the left lat thing don't really register on me. Your arm simply goes back and through and nine times out of ten goes straight where you intended. I wish I could rotate down with my shoulders more level, instead of tilting right so hard. Grips - Crossline cord Keep up the great work. Thanks so much for your great instruction.John,former P.G.A, Thanks John. But a disadvantage is that you better have a short swing and not let your arms run off or you are in trouble. Usually I work out all winter and barely touch the weights during the golf season, so things get slightly better as the summer goes on (I can probably swing back to about the 10:00 position). First I must say you are one hell of an instructor. That sets the ball itself just slightly left of your zipper. Yrrdead - those are some great stretches. That's about what a skinny person's natural swing will be. One more thing to pass on regarding getting yourself in the reverse K at setup. Not restricting the right hip may be another way of adding a touch of height via the body turn. Your description of how to fix your setup was perfect. As for the S&T, I learned a ton from that thread and have spent a lot of time reading it a couple of months ago. Left hand literally underneath the shaft with Palm up. Hey Herman, Consequently, my backswing is very short. Herman. Cant wait to apply this into my routine so all the other tips and compensations might not be needed. It looks like the guys on tour and even your sit up you almost let the club drop or even point your wrist down. LC. The tendency with the forward press is to struggle to align to the target and square the clubface in the setup. If you did not rotate the arms on the backswing, you'd only be able to raise the arms to about chest level. Here's how to do it. I am confused. Thanks for the comments, Mike. Thanks for the compliments fellas. [*][size=4][color=#008000][b]Ping G410 3 wood, Mitsubishi Diamana BF[/b][/color][/size] By The whole coil and feel the stretch in the left lat thing don't really register on me. September 09, 2013. You can read our review of the book in our rundown of the best golf instruction books, or head to the Now for the Back Nine website if you need more information or want to buy a copy. Problem for me is getting arms moving before the right shoulder which then causes my left bicep hits my pec very quickly and everything stops. Michael, Im not sure changing anything here would make you hit it further. Try to feel like this turning move starts at your left hip area as you are coming down in downswing. [list] Now, this is not possible for all golfers due to age, suppleness, or injury. 3 Reasons You're Still Chunking Golf Shots with Your Irons Thanks for the suggestions, so far. NASA spends a tremendous amount of time (months) setting everything up, then they put the shuttle on the crawler to slowly (days) march it over to the launching pad, finally they count down (seconds) and press the button (instantaneous) to launch. Paste as plain text instead, G425 Max 9*o w/ RIP Beta Brian Smock has a great swing and has a thick chest. I usually see a lot of slouching in my clientele with lots of forward shoulder rounding especially in adult men beyond 30 years of age. ProV1X. For the one-piece takeaway, you can still make a one-piece movement while pivoting. Swing the golf club more around your body This weeks swing analysis shows how by swinging the golf club more around your body will help hit the golf ball more out of the centre of the. Slight wrist cock is normal at address. 1. It's simple and very informative. But for the purposes of this article, were going to gloss over grip, assuming you have the details of hand position already figured out. Jim, you are technically correct, but since I know you, I will also with humor say, stop over-analyzing. , For a broader audience who wont study this in too much detail, the idea is to start the club centered to get the most symmetrical possible start with body and club alignments and best possible takeaway. Plus you are more connected to the big muscles of trunk. Rock Flying Wings Golf Swing for Barrel Chested Guys like Howard 31Oct2014 RockBurke 848 subscribers Subscribe 5.8K views 8 years ago Show more Dalton McCrary 8 years ago New Thorbjrn. Are their set up or swing adjustments to make when thick chested? I have a lot of followers Down Under. Thanks for commenting and following my work. I don't care what guys say, [b]the way they describe the pivot, with right side extension and left side tilting was brilliant for me. Centering the hands in my experience has improved most players abilities to align to target, square the face at address and make a reasonably sound takeaway. Rich, most golfers report that same perception. Sorry for the mess and the rambling. I have longer arms so my tendency is, as mentioned above, arm run off and a steep downswing. Being Gumby isn't all its cracked up to be. Wishon 929 HS 14.5*, 19* 0.5 Open Once the grip is established, make sure the lead arm (left arm for right-handed golfers) is sitting on top of the chest. I am barrel chested, could this be the cause? I probably do have to stand slightly more away from the ball than a Davis Love type player. I was cheating, reaching out a bit instead of tilting fully to make my right arm long enough. How to modify the swing, without lag it's just a shove. 1) If ball is too far forward, club path will already be coming back to the left and cutting across so ball will have cut spin on it. [quote name='sblack5' timestamp='1385096461' post='8188352'] Swing Faster And Stop Coming Over The Top Watch on Kyle Morris, named by Golf Digest as one of "America's Best Young Instructors" shows why the use of ones chest too much in the swing can lead to coming over the top and a lack of speed. Due to this reason, shaft-length will often be standard or slightly shorter than standard (1-2cm less than std) since the chest is bowed over closer to the ground and lie angle just be standard. Thanks for stopping by to comment on the blog. Herman, Thank you for this video. Early release is the only result, so no chance of any lag. If you post a video more people will be able to help out. Look no further than the Leaning Tower of Pisa in Italy for a perfect example. Ive begun my yearly review of what I did last year; so I can be better this year. Maybe there are golfers (on Tour?) Thank you! Is that the answer? HighDraw, I am the other way around, played at 240 and now weigh 275 lol. As for the S&T, I learned a ton from that thread and have spent a lot of time reading it a couple of months ago. Former European Tour and Ryder Cup player turned coach Peter Dawson has plenty of swing tips for senior golfers, including this gem, In his coaching companion, Now for the Back Nine, former European Tour and Ryder Cup player Peter Dawson has pieced together a series of easy-to-read, digestible coaching tips aimed at golfers of an advancing age. Have your feet roughly shoulder-width apart keeping good alignment (don't bend knees in or out) Sit back like sitting on a chair whilst keeping your chest higher than the hips and exhale (breath out) as you jump up. Any swing suggestions? Mizuno S18 5310+5812/PX 6.0 Both nice looking golf swings, IMO. 1. Hope it helps! I'm a short stocky guy , I'm not sure exactly what you mean. It would feel very uncomfortable and put you in a more or less cramped position. Paste as plain text instead, Jack Malzahn 336.457.1642. Been lucky to have played most of this winter. Herman. With this grip I swing in-out and hit nice draws but occasional hooks.maybe a hosel here and there. From the setup position with the clubhead resting on the ground at the center of the stance, simply shuffle over to the ball while maintaining setup posture. I feel you are great instructor so I want to stay with your teaching entirely now. Kevin, my first thought is youve got to really identify your natural style. Sometimes I feel like they are cocked and that I hit better. I am working on it though. Right now, you're chunking golf shots because the low point of your swing happens before you reach the ball. Im glad I read the comments When corrected, I do play wedge thru 7 about middle stance, 6- 4, slight left of middle and I do have a slight shaft lean toward inner left leg but do not have the inside backswing issue. Net result should leave the butt of club aimed at belt buckle. Try to make what amounts to a forward press with your hips and knees in the setup. There are many guys on this board who would love to get a shorter backswing. Should l try to widen my back swing or do you feel l should play with what l have got? Let the club fall half way down from bending at the hips, then let the wrists uncock enough to finish lowering the club to the ground. Look on the bright side: at least you'll never have arm overrun. There are some key points to keep in mind for the setup to ensure an inside approach with a level to upward hit. No, you just pick the ball up and throw it in one natural movement and without a thought. [*][size=4][b]Titleist T200 5-9 KBS Tour Flt [/b][/size] a brilliant swing. Does the grip, stronger or weaker, affect this at all? I find your point interesting regarding left hand placement ontop of my female chest. How To Open Up The Chest Through Impact And Rotate Milo Lines Golf 52K views 1 year ago Mike Malaska: DO NOT "ROTATE" your Lower Body in the golf swing! I have a large chest and used to keep my left arm down my left side with the right coming over my chest. Hope this helps clear up some of the apparent conflict in the descriptions. Yes right arm must fall close to body on downswing. You may like to check the word fanny Was pumped to work at a professional golf tournament. Putter: TaylorMade TP Collection Juno (33). It has been historically taught that way, but there is no biomechanical reason or advantage to changing the stance widths. In this first of his swing tips for senior golfers taken from the book, Peter explains why its important to simplify the golf swing. [/quote] Herman. The thing I noticed about this setup was the left elbow pointed down towards my left hip as opposed to my more traditional setup where the left elbow points out between the left hip and target. . Randy, thanks for watching the videos and finding my site to leave a comment. Good job Kevin and thanks for stopping by to comment. Then repeat it with your eyes shut and try to imagine you are swinging a golf club. It isnt as easy as that, of course. Your previous content has been restored. So ready to give up! FEMALE golfer (LEFT-HANDED) . Also, I think width is more important for a big guy vs depth. I'm guessing that if your bicep gets pinned on your chest, then you have no sense of raising your arms as part of your backswing. that's pretty big. Matt Smith Herman, Again Thanks a lot. This post is 4years old now but the same issues remain for some of us. That kind of swing might be good for long drives, but it's probably not the most consistent for every day golf. You can post now and register later. Never heard that term before. [quote name='LaterOn61' timestamp='1385085653' post='8187280'] Hi Herman! This has been a struggle. But for the purposes of this article, were going to gloss over grip, assuming you have the details of hand position already figured out. There's space between your chest and chin that I'm betting your left arm will fit in just fine -- but you have to add some "up" to your swing. Fortunately, it's also the easiest to fix. Ill also say unfortunately for most amateur players there is no continuing descent, so center still works best anyway as it truly is the bottom of their swing. If you each out instead of tilting, youll drop the glove. Very interesting; my thoracic is trashed and not going to get better, and I've been considering this change myself. A bit like throwing a ball, you can actually lob it with a minimal backswing because the power is all in the follow-through. My basic iron setup tries to align the shaft with the belt buckle picturing the shaft like a T-square with the leading edge of face perfectly square. I have a doubt regarding my stance. 3 Wood: Callaway Rogue Sub Zero 15* w/ Hzrdus Yellow 6.5 76g Also, the left arm over the chest and the lower shoulder helps align the shoulders with the lower body. Hstead that line about being 215 and looking like you had AIDS just killed me. I like that thinking mans golf coach. Ive always felt like you deserve to know why you are doing something beyond the standard reason my pro told me too. Its a lot easier to stay committed when you completely understand where youre coming from and where youre trying to go. It never is! [/quote] Oh wait thats not correct. I am taller and thinner than you, but I spent a lot of time swinging the way it sounds you do, Not before I got in front of a mirror after reading many posts on the subject here did I realize that I had no "up" to my swing. LaterOn61, November 21, 2013 in Instruction & Academy. [quote name='MizunoJunky' timestamp='1386361482' post='8259595'] Your left hand should move down your left pant leg toward your left knee as it works inward. The Mrs. Was right, but we are all golfers here, so that's what we do, no need for 2nd post. I Just wanted to say hello and like the way you teach. Today, I wish I lived in NC! That type of rolling for guys that start with their arm on their side promotes open clubfaces, laid off backswings, etc. Thank you so much Herman. The only thing I always question now is how my wrists should be at set up. Given that you are placing the ball in the middle of your stance, wouldnt your stance be wider depending on what club you are using? The attendees were terrible, would rather party than appreciate golf. Much appreciated! Upload or insert images from URL. By Ben Hogan explains how to swing a golf club, in 41 seconds This tried and tested method of coaching has helped many golfers achieve their personal goals and beyond [*][size=4][b][color=#0000ff]Ping G410 LST, Mitsubishi Tensei Orange Pro [/color][/b][/size] But here are a few things to check. Scotty Cameron Phantom X 5.5 I hit about 500 balls a week but feel I bring a different swing every outing. Head to our competitions page to enter. You mean a golfer exists with a bigger chest than me? Ok, cool. In Australia it has a very different meaning which would offend many people. Distance? The second thing: get fitted for clubs. The other common flaw developed out of a forward press is a tendency to take the clubhead to the inside on the takeaway. A centered golf ball, or just slightly left of center technically, gets the ball positioned where the club has a chance to strike it cleanly, and as is the case with the irons, continue to descend. Golf Setup Lesson - Foundation for a Golf Swing - Herman Williams Golf But I can hit 100s of balls quite nicely in this set up but I know its fundamentally wrong and wellId rather not do it. Its about finding what works for your body type. Could expectation management be key to lowering your scores? Epic Fail. This is the best explanation that I can find. As far as the left arm I remember hearing "either go over or under". I think it is also harder to keep your arms in front of you. I would say I am probably more flexible than most guys think, but it depends on the area. Thanks Herman! Pasted as rich text. I've done either and vary on it. Mimic your backswing, then swing down slowly. 4) Hip speed will ruin your driver swing until youve had time to master your hands. My swing looked ok, but it too often felt like my gears were grinding as I tried to find the slot at the top of my back-swing. Again thanks for your rapid response. I checked, and indeed running a club from my chest though my belt buckle has the head touching my left leg as you demonstrated. Maybe in the future. As you reach the top of your backswing the chest should be facing pretty much straight away from your target. Basically we create the setup while standing a few inches too far away from the ball, then slide the clubhead up behind the ball as the feet take a small step forward. My avg driving distance is around 240-250 which is perfectly respectable. I can keep my knees straight and put my palms on the ground, so my back and hamstrings are way flexible. One advantage is normally you can generate quite a bit of power with a short swing. Most back-niners cant swing back as fully as they once did but can still complete their follow-through so this is where they need to concentrate their energies. Place an alignment rod under your toes and make some swings. This will raise your left hip and drop your right hip and knee. When shots get ugly, I stand way far from the ballfeel like Moe Norman and probably look as silly. TSR2 9 Velocore Blue 6XTSi2 15 Velocore Blue 7X818H2 18 Velocore Blue 9XZX5 MkII 4-5 / ZX7 MkII 6-P Modus 120XWilson Forged Staff 50 Modus 120X, Vokey SM9 54/60Modus 125 Wedge2-Ball 11 CH. Get that left arm up high and across the chest and actually try to maintain a slightly closed appearance with the upper chest and shoulders relative to the feet. on Golf Setup Lesson Pt 1- Foundation for a Golf Swing, So how do we setup to make a golf swing and avoid becoming a tourist attraction like the Leaning Tower? I just never made the connection. A neutral grip makes it all too easy to let arm sit on the side of the chest. Oh great, now Im even more confused. [/quote] Herman. Great question wrists do uncock slightly. Learn how your comment data is processed. When I was about 18, I had a wrist operation that afterwards made my wrist sore if I used my normal two-knuckle grip. I was wondering if you set-up any differently with fairway woods and hybrids? Anyway, short, stocky, old guy here. But it should be said that I spend a lot of time each day stretching. Swing component: WAITfor the feel of centrifugal force coming in as your body stops his rotation and your left arm and club are swung into orbit. Hopefully when I post an update after my trip to Jacksonville in Feb I will be down about 30 lbs. Really great explanations of the mechanics and cause/effect of doing things right or wrong. [/quote] Regardless of stance width though the bottom of the swing arc will basically be the center of your stance, so for a ball played on the ground, center is easiest place to catch it solid and not try to time 13 different positions or stance widths. A stronger grip tends to push the hands farther forward as its the only position that feels comfortable. But heres a question: say for a 9iron, the offset will leave the face of the club look closed (I am playing Mizuno JPX800 iron set), and its almost impossible to make it look square. Wishon 54, 59 Micro-Groove HM This is no small detail. Hope this helps you can always sign-up for an online lesson if you have a way to send me some video. [/b] r/golf - So I'm a big barrel chested guy, and almost every video I Ironically, if I need to hit a high shot (say over a tree), I seem to make some of my best swings (I imagine it has to do with my setup and the need to get the ball up rather quickly). Thanks. My shoulder is 46cm width. Its very easy to stand up and rotate flat in the backswing. The T-square approach is simpler for a wide range of players. As for setup changes, I find that I play better with my feet pointed more right of my target but my shoulders parallel left. What bothers me most now is the driver, could you talk more about how to set up and hit a driver/fairway wood. Shift your weight onto your front foot and begin to rotate your hips toward the target. As you land inhale (breath in) and absorb the weight into your heels before you jump again. 2023 HomeTown Lenders Championship (Korn Ferry Tour) - Discussion and Links to photos, 2023 Zurich Classic - Discussion and Links to Photos, 2023 RBC Heritage - Discussion and links to Photos, 2023 Valero Texas Open - Discussion and links to photos, 2023 WGC Dell Technologies Match Play - Discussion and links to photos. Stay Connected For Power - Golf Tips Magazine If you are strong but lack mobility, especially in thoracic spine, you should be a 3 barrel hitter. In other words train your hands for impact first, and try to get to duck-hooking as soon as possible. Try to talk to a good clubfitter if possible. Herman, I am working on it though. I have lost significant distance, consistency and golf balls trying to get flatter and deeper. 1: Ball Position This is the most common mistake I see among amateur golfers. Thanks for the compliments and I hope you see continued improvement in your game. 2. What makes it easy on the back? But a disadvantage is that you better have a short swing and not let your arms run off or you are in trouble. Hogan had great leg drive and fast hips considering his major injuries from the car wreck in 1949. DGA3, February 3, 2016 in Instruction & Academy. In this video Mark Wood PGA Advanced Professional shows you a great. While working on getting my left arm on top of my pec, I was neglecting what I was doing to grip the club with my right hand. I have a broad chest as well and lack proper external right shoulder rotation - you can either go 'up' toward the anterior like some have described, or you can stay in depth (and some width) with low hands and reverse loop a fade out of it. Thanks a million. I finally understand how to turn so the head stays centered and the shoulders are not too flat and I don't have to lift the arms. Herman. The driver is defintely tougher to time everything. [/quote] When you throw a ball do you practice the movement? Are you referring to being heavy thick chested or having a barrel chest? I still have a lot of work to go but I feel more interested in golf now than ever. Im a left handed golfer. One advantage is normally you can generate quite a bit of power with a short swing. It really help me a lot on correcting my weak, slicing shots for a long time. A couple of more ho ho's I should be 280 plus. Your videos have greatly improved my game. I also checked out Craig Stadler's, and he, too, is very steep. EDIT: PS I'm interested in comments as well since my league partner is kind of similar: he has a very "built" upper body (although a little taller) and has a lot of trouble with how tight his bicep/pec connection is in setup and swing. I played football at 238lbs, full back, and used to lift a lot. If this helps you, heres what I do that more often produces nice shots (i.e. Your knees should just crease slightly, no sitting or excessive bending. Most of them DO NEED to learn to let their arms swing from their shoulder sockets more. Thick Chest - Instruction & Academy - GolfWRX
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