The password should contain at least 8 characters with at least one number or special character. Shot the S&W .380 EZ and you'll dump your Ruger LCP or S&W Bodyguard! I completely agree with your #1 pick. And the two metals combine to make this small handgun tip the scales at 15.2 ounces, with a barrel length of 2.7 inches long. The thing that got me was for handgun rounds from 380 to 44 Mag, the lethal/incapacitate results were pretty much equal! If I can't wear my 9mm Shield 2.0 the Bodyguard is my next choice and I have no doubt it will perform effectively in a life and death situation. The G42 has a barrel of 3.25 inches, one of the longer ones on this shortlist, and weighs in at 13.76 ounces. I carry it in a de Santis pocket holster, condition one, so I have 8 plus a spare 7 round mag. For example the Sig is not accurate for me. decorated guns for a "get it out of my shop" discount. Semper Fi, I noticed the Kimber Micro .380 didn't make the list. Glad I found this site. Weve built dozens of ARs and well cover all the best AR-15 upgrades such as handguards, triggers, BCGs, gas blocks, and more. It sports a long, heavy trigger pull with double-strike capability. To the point of I wish these two models didnt even exist. Every order can be limited to less that 25 pounds in Black Powder and not more than 66 pounds from Smokeless Powder, Primers, or Fuses. It is a solid piece of metal and helps dampen the recoil. Based on meat tests and gel tests of .410 out of a pistol, it is barely effective at anything except the shortest range. IMO it's the best .380 concealed carry on the planet! You forget it's even there. Even if it came out after your article it was available for writers to test well before 2019 and, the M&P EZ shield (which you did include) came out I believe in late 2019 (after you wrote the article) yet you included it here and didn't include the CPX-3. I have a 1st edition LCP. The majority of reviews of the two models say the II is preferable because of its better trigger and better sights, and this fits my experience. anything extra and your Its easy to see why: .380 pistols are typically small enough to carry in the pocket, they are unquestionably smaller and lighter than competing 9mm single stack autos or .38 snubnose revolvers. Both cartridges are most similar when the .38 Special ballistics are compared when coming from a snubnosed revolver with a 2" (or slightly shorter) barrel. The gun now sits high on the shelf in my basement bicycle/workshop. How it feels in my hands like no other. I'm a 71 year old Marine Corps careerist and Vietnam combat vet whose career mainly relied on the 1911 platform. I inherited my Dad's Browning BDA .380. Plus side for smaller folks is that the slide racks easily and you can even fully load the extended magazine without a helper tool. My favorite is the Ruger since the trigger pull is 4, maybe 5, lbs. The trigger on the Bodyguard is so poor that I find it unreasonably difficult to stay on target. But both only had a max capacity of 6+1 rounds. Still, shoot whatever makes you most comfortable; that S&W is a fine choice. Reliability Bad move! I'm a 65 yr old novice and it only required 30 seconds to select LCP 2. guns & It's not space age polymer, but rather a look a like of the ppk (James bond gun) for a much better price than the ppk, and functions just as well or better. Another good one not mentioned in your list: Remington's RM380, which like the Sig is all metal. I "HAD" 2 kel-tec 380's (both garbage). Have the Ruger LCP. This is great because it gives you some extra recoil-fighting weight. I have a Keltec .380. I've had a Kahr PM9 for years, thrown everything I could at it, and it has never failed to feed, fire, or lock the slide. Oh, and the first time he put a full mag in the weapon three rounds came popping out for him just like it did for me!!! The chamber seemed pretty dirty so Im willing to give the weapon another chance, but I was very disappointed. I don't care for the whole 1911 thing, I'd rather have a single or double action striker but this P238 is amazing. When it comes to a 380/9mm Kurtz however, without question, my old Stainless Sig P232 was and remains my favorite. We saw a glimpse of it last year with the ANTIFA riots.imagine if you deprive 1/2 of society out of their entitlements and freebies? It's tough growing old, but it does beat the alternative. Rating the Ruger LCP II above the Sig P238 made me laugh. It takes an attacker 1.5 seconds to reach you from 21 feet. Also, you can not use Plus P ammo with the S&W as the polymer frame and light spring will not tolerate the added pressure. Examples of popular small pocket .380 autos include the original Ruger LCP, Taurus TCP, Smith & Wesson Bodyguard .380, and the Kel-Tec P3-AT to name a few. I think the human interface of the grip and trigger is different with each individual shooter. With more practice, I can do better than that. Read all about it in our Complete Review of the Bersa Firestorm .380! I have extended mags for both but the LCP 2 is still a lot snappier then the sig making it harder to get back on target. I was worried seeing a lot of internet Kimber slamming between the time I bought the pistol and the time I had a chance to run it. I'm hoping one pound will make my actual carry more likely in these crazy days. The, much lauded, FBI study is not highly relevant to CCW, purely defensive, needs. When you get up to the most powerful ones, the guns are so big and cumbersome that it doesnt make sense to carry them. I do like the Kimber Micro too. A good example is this SW22 Victory that fires the tiny .22LR round. i moved up to a p938 since it isnt much larger. Check Price. That is saying something about the bullet design. The combination of these three features gives you lots of recoil, a slow follow upshot, and a very slow reload time. Most instances of conflict occur within 5 feet. So, when it comes time that you have to rely on your 380, think long and hard about what's in your hand, and what ammo you are feeding it. However, in the .380 you are missing the very best of them. That can be both GOOD and BAD, but Beware of that trigger. Yup, we're looking at an update this year! So for folks just getting into the 380s. They are very helpful and want you to be happy with your pistol. Ruger still sells them brand new. I love those kind too, and all kinds of guns for that matter, but those big .40, .45's etc.. have there place and it's not in your pocket feeling like a brick.. You understand living in Florida. TOP TEN Bestest .380acp Pistols - YouTube 0:00 / 10:39 TOP TEN Bestest .380acp Pistols 180,878 views Jul 6, 2019 4.2K Dislike Share Save TheYankeeMarshal 357K subscribers This channel and TYMP. 6 I get the mag in, release the slide and it doesn't go fully into battery. It also just happens to be the best looking gun on this shortlist. It is also used by Underwood ammo who produces it in a +P and +P+ plus loads. Fmj, cci, winchester, and remington, sent back to Ruger, replaced slide, back to range, same issues, took to local gunsmith for evaluation, awaiting results, Ruger missed the mark on this one, not acceptable performance, from a name like Ruger, not acceptable for personal defense, do not recommend for purchase, own a P-89, will feed anything, own an American .243, extremely accurate, again, Ruger missed the mark with the LCP. Small, tucks out of the wayand Sig makes great firearms. Small, all rounded edges, 7+1 and shoot anything from cheap ammo to non standar +p. The original LCP had a long hard pull trigger like the S&W .380 bodyguard. The grip shape is comfortable and recoil is no worse than any other .380 pocket pistol. As well as shooting mechanics. (Even the slightly easier to carry 3" barrel models can provide fairly similar figures.) The CPX3 has 10+1 capacity which trumps every single gun done in this review. I mostly like the Bersa Thunder .380, but, reliability can be a concern. Mine were made by Smith&Wesson, you would think for the price they could have deburred those edges. The Kimber, Metro Arms American Classic, CZ-75B, CANIK 55, CANIK TP9v2, --- all of my .380s. I am not sure why Kimber was excluded from the list of .380's. What decent pistol can you put in your pocket and forget it's there? If you take it apart the wrong way or forget to move the ejector upon reassembly, you could damage the gun. Everything about it is perfect for me. This is especially true if 147-grain 9 mm loads are compared to the higher-performance loadings in the .38 Special; it is uncanny how similar these are, especially given the differences in how barrel lengths are measured in pistols versus revolvers. Also the famous and consecrated King of Rock and Roll, Elvis Presley, wore a Walther PPK / S engraved, with an initial "take care of your business" i also see this,, bought the 42 with precision one ammo,, fired over 200 rounds yesterday,, excellent patterns at 25 and 50 feet,, also bought the haugh hand grips and the finger extension on the magazine,, realy helped on accuracy. Google it. As a matter of fact is 1/2 inch longer than a Kahr CM9. It does not fail. If I could find my wife a SC 9mm that she felt as comfortable shooting as the P238, I"d dump the .380 round altogether for reliability of avail firearm issues though and not because it's a "puny" round. All of these features together, the improved trigger, the enhanced serrations, the stippling on the grip, and the slightly wider grip size all combine to make the LCP II a better handgun to shoot than the original LCP. Fits my wife's hands as well as mine. Taurus really dumped in their lunch bucket when they discontinued the TCP738 and replaced it with the Spectrum which is, Ive read, as you describe. There are a lot of disparaging comments about the TCP on the internet, but I love mine. Ruger LCP II 3. I highly recommend the LCP as an everyday carry. My wife carries the Sig P238 which is a great gun with very few issues. The Remington 380 is a really decent gun. Helped GF decide on a pistol for her own self-defense and ended up with the Sig Sauer P238 and I liked it so well that I got one for myself to replace the KelTec. Increiblemente yo cazo con pistolas .380, desde liebres, grandes tats, lagartos extremadamente resistentes, avestruces (algunos de ms de 80 kilos) Uso una walther pp, capaz de poner 5 tiros hornady en 1.5 " pulgadas a 25 mts, apoyado. The most important thing in a defensive situation is shot placement. I've ran 100 rounds through the Sig P238 and not one issue , it is awesome , pricey but awesome . As a gal new to the conceal carry scene, I looked the .380"s over very carefully and settled on the Sig P238. Wowno North American Arms Guardian .380? This gun has never had a FTF except with Corbon hollow points. And it's accurate or maybe I am ;-) Takes about 150 rounds through the gun to train your mind for the trigger pull and, in general, to get familiar with it. The higher-grade 911 (the original model) has superb (night) sights. If it hits the other shooter's forehead, it the gun, maybe gun/ammunition combination. Sig P230, Ruger LCP, Kahr P380 and a Beretta Pico. We both shoot and carry with a +1 magazine for better control and comfort. After 100 rounds ran through the LCP, not one single malfunction. There are basically two methods of thought when it comes to self-defense cartridges. withering fire is a bitch especially if you have it..carrying 500 rounds of anything else is 2X a normal combat loading and damn heavy after 10 miles of hiking.now make it 20..and you still need food, clothing, perhaps a tarp and/or tent, water..adding 20lbs of ammo doesn't make much sense when you are evading society.. Shotshell equivalents are nothing new. 6 I get the guys who work at the range to clear the gun, took a FULL five minutes, he fires two rounds and I tell him to take the gun back, I won't fire it again. It is well thought out, and was crafted, not just cranked out. I have no problem running ball and hollowpoint ammo in it. Check Price. Carries 7+1, decocked and hammer down, great SA, eats any brand ammo. This is typically not discussed or practiced. The quality and reliability is absolutely worth the extra weight and money. Once for a broken firing pin then again for a broken laser. I went to Government schools too :-) but there is more than I can ignore. Has tritium night-sights, plus front sight is also fiber optic, they are excellent. I am a pistol instructor, and I never teach students to rigidly adopt any stance. Yes, the LCP II is still a .380 pocket pistol and as a result is still snappy. 3, when I tried to release the slide there was a failure to feed, this with only three rounds in the magazine, 4 I manage to drop the mag, clear the jam and fire three rounds and reload. Know your target and what's behind it as you are responsible for that round that goes through the target and lands in something/someone else. Just for the 380 Kimber micro haven't shot it yet, hope it is not the ones that have the FTE problem. It is slightly heavier, but packs a wallop with Corbon flying ashtrays. If anyone has a legitimate reason I shouldn't use this particular weapon for self defense, please respond. There is nothing magical about the the .410 slug, either. I would say no - unless you really needed the ultra-compactness and reduced recoil. Bought the SW body guard, it is great, easy to conceal. The safety on my Shield .40 was the same way. A review of .380s and no mention at all of Springfield's excellent 911? I also have a PPK in .380 that I carry when I want something smaller. I own a Glock 42, Sig Sauer P238, and the Ruger LCP II. Have shoot over 1500 rd of all types of ammo. Just like the crazies that are carrying guns illegally and using them criminally. That's about 150% more kinetic energy than the .380 can bring to bear! I can say that they are similar, and this is the only gun on this list that is of all-metal construction. It Works. So don't underestimate the power of calibers starting with 3. The range officer called for a cold range and inspected her Glock in disbelief. I'll take a high capacity 380 over a low capacity pocket 9mm any day in a real world gun fight. Or the author has no clue. Changing brands of ammunition might help. I always wanted something similar, but in a 9mm and something that had a better magazine release set up. I love my Bersa Thunder Combat. You might check on a Ruger-oriented forum, on Ruger's own website, or call Ruger customer service. It's certainly uglier and much more expensive. However, as much as I love Springfield and wish I could give them the nod I just can't credit the sights as being better than those on my Sig. Yeah congrats you live in a heavily restricted country that doesn't allow you to own "military calibers" you must be so proud. Just get the Glock 19. On their website they recommend the +P version for the Glock 42. I am sure the S&W EZ .380 is a good gun (I have the 9mm version.). You can still find some of the more garishly (rainbow?) Not sure what's with Ruger on returns for repair. Comparing my 9mm to the 380 isn't hard. I carry it a lot because of how I dress. I fired over 500 rounds through my Sig using dozens of different ammo and it NEVER gave me an issue. Aesthetics always take a backseat to functionality, but you cant argue with a good looking gun. I use old Supervel. A .410 is barely an excuse for a shotgun, and should never be used when a 12 or 20 gauge is called for. I own a S&W 380 M&P Shield EZ, and I'm very pleased with it overall. Box of 5000 5 boxes of 1,000 Pass on the II and get the original. you a link to reset your password. I can handle both of these guns, which helps me to be able to keep my family safe. He posted another eval after his wrap-up because he discovered another ammo that out-performed the Precision One ammo. 7 Best .380 Pistols in 2023 with Review & Buying guide - Marine Approved I'll be reviewing one soon, so keep an eye out! Thanks for sharing your experience, Mark. Got rid of it and got a Sig P238 and a Glock 42. There was a recall on it, but the trigger still sucked, a "3 stage", the first pull, then some weird twilight zone, and then the pull to release. The Pico is soild stainless steel, with a stainless steel chassis, and a modular design where you can work on many parts yourself, and change grips. So went out and bought a Bersa "Fire Storm"fell in love with the 380 cal. So what are the best 380 ACP pistols and where can you buy yours? (However, suspect Ruger will go with the LCP II as their .380 and discontinue the LC380.). I acquired two pinky extended mags, and applied my requisite Talon grips. Like the Sig, the 911 is all metal and the fit and finish are excellent. I have a Kimber RCP (lg) that I picked up a while back. True, it is to stop the threat. I'm sure your testing will help out some of the other readers. Jimenez 380 - Worst Guns Ever The term Saturday Night Special was specifically derived for guns like the Jimenez 380 ACP. As a curious fact and proof of the historical importance of the iconic Walther PP Series, I will say that the exceptional, world-renowned Frank Sinatra, carried a beautiful, beautifully engraved Walther PP pistol that was auctioned off at a fortune. I wanted to LOVE the LCP because its SO easy to conceal. Simply put, the best .380 ACP gun/ammunition combination cannot begin to match a plain S&W M10 with a 4" barrel and high-performance +P ammunition. for CC, I have a Lg. I found a Desantis pocket carry for it to ride in. It is considerably lighter and smoother than the original LCP and other comparable .380 pistols, and it also features the Glock-style bladed safety that must first be depressed in order for the trigger to be pulled. I would suggest if you plan to carry any mini handgun try to get a mini version of the full size pistol you use in order to avoid learning another system. I like mine too but my wife has a lcp2. You're currently reading page 1; Page 2; Ruger sought out to remedy much of these problems with the LCP II. Best sights in class. The only aspect that has been overcome, is in the weight, and this is a debatable aspect, as you very well point out, as commented on the benefits of the Sig Sauer 238, for being all metal. Any list discussing pocket-carry guns that does not at least mention the best on the market, the Seecamp, is incomplete. Thanks for your comment. I love my Sig P238 so much that I bought another one (in a slightly different "flavor") for my Wife. But you get the idea. Your comment is interesting. Personalize your experience. The TCP is hands down the worst firearm I spent money on! I've had the Kel Tec P3AT but didn't like the fact that it wouldn't lock the slide back on an empty magazine, so I sold it and got a Taurus Spectrum. They are not only built like tanks, but will shoot Plus P ammo milder than most guns shoot standard ammo. Keep on keepin on with it! I haven't had a chance to get the firestorm yet but am looking forward to getting one soon. Truth be told I would have paid him $100 to take it and another $50 to never mention that I had shown up with one on my possession. Its looks great and feels great in my hands. It was an upgrade from a Beretta Jet Fire 25. A Ruger-oriented forum could help with the holster issue. In contrast to this, the original LCP did not lock back on the final round. The only .380 cartridge I'd ever use, is Precision One. For what it is, I really like the gun and most reviewers feel the same. 1. I have had several .380 pistols, and currently have a Sig P238 that I really like. 2) .410 for defensive, I strongly disagree with the assumptions made. This writer is SPOT ON w/the issue of firing & nothing happening w/the Bodyguard! Happy with both options!!! But it is still comparing the .38 Special, with one hand tied behind it's back, to a .380 ACP which is allowed all the advantages. Otherwise, I REALLY like the bodyguard and would feel 95% to 99% comfortable with it. Tucked into a J&J wallet holster, it's gone but easy enough to deploy. Then you'd love the Bersa Thunder Plus .380 that holds 15+1. Every one of these pistols are incredibly easy to conceal in your pocket. Yes there is a difference but not enough to be an issue. The 938 is very close in size and does have a more punch. The Micro 380 now comes with a 7-round magazine; The Micro 380 weighs a mere 13.4 oz. You will want to read this: I own an LCP, Sig P238, and a Bodyguard. Three of the top 5 here.I have spent A LOT of time testing ammo with all 3 of these 380's because even though I have an LC9S Pro 9mm and a Sig P938 9mm, I WANT to carry the 380 because its just more comfortable in summer to carry. Just thought I'd mention it. For me the other pistols you mentioned don't fit my human make-up. I have and carry the G42 routinely. I picked up five loads for function testing from those showing good terminal ballistics at Lucky Gunner 1st round of Win White Box failed to chamber a couple times off the top of the 1st magazine; I hit the magazine release by accident on the 2nd magazine; no other function problems yet with a variety of useful loads FMJ-RN, JHP-RN, and JHP-truncated cone. I've found the fit and overall feel of the pistol to be more favorable than the Sig 238. glock but too big to carry,, traded for glock 42,, excellent patterns at 25 and 50 feet,,at range yesterday,, over 200 rounds,, use the precision on ammo plus p,, called them,, they said this best ammo out there ,, 12 inch penetration with 1/2 in hole,, you right,, if you don't hav it you can't use it.,,also bought finger extension on magazine and haugh grips,, excellent helpers and made patterns alot better. +1 pierce extension & 1 in the chamber gives you 8 rounds. But if being ultra-concealable is the goalyou cant go wrong with the LCP Max. It can handle Plus P ammo and with the 3.75 inch barrel is extremely accurate. The Precision One XTP round did excellent. Granted, .380 pocket autos are not guns that you take to the range for fun. Had a Keltec P3AT And will say I had no problems with it, that being said I have heard others not so lucky sold mine to a friend that had to have it when I bought my P238, once I polished the feed ramp on the Sig it worked flawlessly was pissed that I had to polish the feed ramp on a $575 dollar pistol when a $199.00 pistol ran like a champ. Replacement parts were free from Bersa and I did the labor myself, pretty easy to work on. You are crazy. One of the big box sporting good stores ran the Ruger LCP 380 for $199 on black Friday. It's also rock solid reliableOver 100 rounds of mixed ammo types without the first hiccup. If youre looking for an easy to take apart gun, opt for one of the others on this list. Try adjusting your grip, i.e., grip,the gun a little more tightly, or a bit more loosely. I have hundreds of rounds through both and I haven't had any malfunctions with either of them. Things go bad fast and I want to go home at the end of my shift. The trigger is amazing. The extra half inch of barrel imporives accuracy dramatically and tames recoil even more dramatically. Rock Island Armory Baby Rock 7. The Sig has a more "boxy" feeling to the slide, whereas the Kimber's slide is more "melted" along the edges, making for a more comfortable pistol for all day carry. Find the LPC a bit small for my hand. I still have a bunch of old stock and they feed and shoot well. Going to a range and renting as many .380s as you can is a great way to try them out and see which one is the best for you. Very small, very conceable. This matters with hands that are not as strong, or that might be arthritic. After much video reviewing on the internet I went with Hornady American Gunner 90 gr XTP. PSs-I've owned/own Brownings, Rugers, Sigs, Smiths, Springfieldsadd Bersa to the list! Even then, with properly chosen ammunition, the .38 has an edge in terms of kinetic energy and penetration. In fact, I currently shoot Lehigh defense ammo. towards your level. That said, I will continue to practice my tap-rack-bang exerciseseven with a Glock. I have a S&W BG that's basically a paperweight. Also have a Taurus 738. For me, it is the Mercedes Benz of hand guns. The Lehigh Defense Extreme Penetrator. Another 380 that didn't make this list, but considered top 5 on many others is the Bursa FireStorm. However, they are among the worst guns for concealed carry. It does have small sights and is a mini-beast to shoot. I plan to clean it again soon. Talk about a pistol that's finicky with ammo! Never an issue. I had a 380 EZ as a backup.. Did they succeed? Shoots fine and no issues. I have the Springfield 911 and that gun is amazing compact good grouping lightweight are amazing. I guess everyone is into the crappy plastic guns. I have always enjoyed the way this pistol feels and shoots. Worth a shot! I still like my new 911 and have no complaints with it so far. My mother comes to mind. One thing that was not improved over the original LCP, however, is the sights. i would put it up against any you recommended plus i have twice the ammo for defense, While I have a number of guns, my carry gun is the Ruger LCP. I also have the Thunder plus. Somewhere under a 9mm, and about equal to a .38 Special (depending upon the gun, barrel, ammo type, etc.). I do find more noticeable recoil when using this ammo. Best Premium Choice - Walther PPK/S .380 ACP. The Best .380 Pistols For Concealed Carry Glock 42 Ruger LCP II .380 1 Glock 42 While we see that the Glock 42 becomes the largest pistol on our list for concealed carry, we cannot help ourselves not to include it. Concealable Semi-Automatic Handguns: The Top 15 - The Shooter's Log Not sure if it's litigation prevention or what, but I slapped a Giessele two stage in it and never looked back. Because your firearm is potentiallypointed at your junk! Just wanted to say, I own 4 different caliber Taurus pistols and I am very satisfied with my 357 mag, 1911 Commander 45 acp, and 38 special. My Bodyguard did have a few issues with Hornady Civil Defense ammo but Federal HST 99 grain JHP has been off the charts in accuracy and reliability. I've put fmj rounds through it as well the defense I carry at work. It simply is the best gun, dollar-for dollar I own. Learn all the important stuff about handgunswith none of the attitude. I load them both with Hornady Critical Defense FTX and feel those will do the job, when I do my job with placing the rounds where they will have the best effect. I like the DA/SA design, 8+1 capacity, lifetime warrantee, and $299/$309 price point. I would like to comment on a takeaway I have. Still I agree with you! Its good enough to get the job done with several shots, but obviously not the best choice out there. Most people don't stand a 25-75 chance within 21 feet of an alert active attacker because they can't react, draw, point and shoot under stress in under 1.5 seconds. What a great gun although much bigger than the Sig. The RM-380 is the easiest to rack of those I own and the Kahr CW-380 the hardest. I do not own one, friends do. I appreciate the tip! It does what it's supposed to do, with a really good factory trigger, pretty decent little sights, it's withstood the test of time, and it's a pretty sexy little gun (mine is the matte black with brushed nickel highlights).#1 380, hands down Bersa Thunder 380's, oh ya, and at a very affordable price. It's gets shot more than occasionally and rides under the truck seat when not in use. The hornady personal protection ammo is a good match for the gun. By the way I also own a S&W Shield 9mm and a full size S&W M&P 9mm both great guns , the Bodyguard .380 sucks though . I am quite accurate out to 10 yards and have gotten used to the recoil. I shoot the 238 better than the 938, but not by much. Cons mucho $'s, and it's next to impossible to rack the slide without cocking the hammer first. I found that if I cut about an 1/8" off the spring in the magazine, I could make it a 6 +1. All are used for pocket carry, as often my clothing choice here in FL makes it impractical to carry one of my 9's as I prefer, which is OWB under a loose-fitting shirt. Our favorite is always that P238 HD. The order I acquired these guns is also my preference for carrying them. Comes with a Hogue rubber grip as well. This seems to be a hit and miss gun as far as quality is concerned. And, be confident enough to accurately use it.. The second thought is all-inclusive and says carry whatever you can handle comfortably enough to prevent someone else from taking your life.
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